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One 777 is out of service
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David Lesher
2015-09-10 20:40:34 UTC
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We had some excitment here. A BA 777 departing LAS had what
appears to be a port engine hot section explosion, just before
reaching V1

Everyone evacuated out the starboard slides with only minor
injuries. The aircraft, welll....

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It's a good thing the PIC aborted when he did; I suspect the
wing would never have survived long enough to get back down.

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<https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-detects-signs-of-uncontained-engine-failure-fro-416634/
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Clocky
2015-09-10 21:33:11 UTC
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Post by David Lesher
We had some excitment here. A BA 777 departing LAS had what
appears to be a port engine hot section explosion, just before
reaching V1
Everyone evacuated out the starboard slides with only minor
injuries. The aircraft, welll....
<http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03433/vegas2_3433621b.jpg>
It's a good thing the PIC aborted when he did; I suspect the
wing would never have survived long enough to get back down.
I don't think so either looking at that pic. Nasty.
Post by David Lesher
<https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-detects-signs-of-uncontained-engine-failure-fro-416634/
matt
2015-09-10 21:47:41 UTC
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The BA 777=-200ER is one of the older birds in the fleet, in fact I am
surprised it is still in the fleet. It would have entered service in
the mid 1990's. BA bought a modest number of 777-200ER's with
surprisingly low MGTOW, 588,000 pounds IIRC.

You can spot them because they have GE90-85B engines. As far as
I know BA was the only operator to buy the -85B engine. Just about
everyone else went with MGTOW more in the 620-630,000 pound range (as
did BA eventually), which requires a 90,000 pound thrust class engine
for acceptable high/hot performance..

BA eventually upped the MGTOW, and bought bigger engines, GE90-90B,
(and later Trent 890 series) . The GE90-90B's were eventually
improved to about 94,000 pounds thrust and became known as GE90-94B
engines.

My guess is the bird has been depreciated down to close to zero, so it
is probably a constructive write off.
Sylvia Else
2015-09-11 01:57:19 UTC
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We had some excitment here. A BA 777 departing LAS had what appears
to be a port engine hot section explosion, just before reaching V1
Everyone evacuated out the starboard slides with only minor injuries.
The aircraft, welll....
<http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03433/vegas2_3433621b.jpg>
It's a good thing the PIC aborted when he did; I suspect the wing
would never have survived long enough to get back down.
While the aircraft is flying, the airflow is pushing any flame
backwards, and providing significant cooling to the wing surfaces. I'd
doubt that the fire would bring the aircraft down. In the mean time, the
fuel flow can be stopped, to stop feeding the fire.

Though things get hoary if bits fly out of the engine and puncture a
fuel tank.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airtours_Flight_28M

Sylvia
Phil Allison
2015-09-11 09:31:06 UTC
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Post by Sylvia Else
While the aircraft is flying, the airflow is pushing any flame
backwards, and providing significant cooling to the wing surfaces. I'd
doubt that the fire would bring the aircraft down. In the mean time, the
fuel flow can be stopped, to stop feeding the fire.
Though things get hoary if bits fly out of the engine and puncture a
fuel tank.
** Back in 2007, a China Airlines B737-800 landed in Okinawa, caught fire and was quickly totally destroyed. All caught on video.



The cause was a single loose bolt in the support assembly for the leading edge slat behind the right engine. The bolt punctured a wing tank during retraction of the slats after landing, making a 25mm hole.

Fuel leaked and puddled under the plane when parked, until the engines were shut down - then dripped onto hot bits and ignited.

Fire engines were slow arriving but the evacuation of all 157 pax was text book. Note the captain exiting via a cockpit window as the first explosion arrives.



.... Phil
keithr0
2015-09-14 11:25:23 UTC
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Post by David Lesher
We had some excitment here. A BA 777 departing LAS had what
appears to be a port engine hot section explosion, just before
reaching V1
Everyone evacuated out the starboard slides with only minor
injuries. The aircraft, welll....
<http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03433/vegas2_3433621b.jpg>
It's a good thing the PIC aborted when he did; I suspect the
wing would never have survived long enough to get back down.
<https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-detects-signs-of-uncontained-engine-failure-fro-416634/
Look at the pictures of the passengers evacuating, the stupid bastards
are carrying their carry on baggage! When the wing is on fire and you
stop to take your baggage instead of heading straight for the exit, you
may well be condemning those behind you to a fiery death.

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